“Everybody wants to be the best player in the f—ing world, man,” Gattis, who has since retired, told The Athletic’s “755 Is Real” podcast. “And we cheated that, for sure. And we obviously cheated baseball and cheated fans. Fans felt duped. I feel bad for fans.

“I’m not asking for sympathy or anything like that. If our punishment is being hated by everybody forever, just like, whatever. I don’t know what should be done, but something had to f—ing be done. I do agree with that, big-time. I do think it’s good for baseball that we’re cleaning it up. … And I understand that it’s not f—ing good enough to say sorry. I get it.”

“We didn’t look at our moral compass and say this is right,” said Gattis, who played catcher and served as designated hitter for the Astros in 2017. “It was almost like paranoia warfare or something. But what we did was wrong. Don’t get it twisted: It was wrong for the nature of competition, not even just baseball.”

“It got out of f—ing control. That’s why I’m actually glad that the objective truth is out there. We f—ed up, and it was not right. It was wrong. It’s a little easier to see it being f—ed up afterwards. Don’t get me wrong, I’m very happy we won the World Series. … But once that all fades, now it’s kind of different. That happened and we cheated. You can’t feel that good about it. As I grow up, this is a story now, this is gonna be a story next year, and this going to be a story in a decade and longer.

“I’m trying to come up with something positive out of this, other than now we know. But f—, MLB punished us — I guess not the players — but everybody’s gonna have to wear the boos and all that s–t and be a punching bag, I get it. I understand why you’re mad.”

While he said Hinch knew of the scheme, Gattis said “I don’t think he liked it.”

Gattis also said other teammates were upset about what transpired.

But no one did anything about it. 

When you don’t blow the whistle, you’re part of the cheating too. 

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